Herb Potency

As of August 2009, while I still believe most of the following information to be accurate, it has been over 4 years since this study was done and I caution the reader to take the results with a grain of salt. It is my intention to re-verify the data as soon as I carve out some time for alchemy again, but in the meantime this information should be treated only as a starting reference to your own research. During the summer of 2010, it was announced, with the release of the Stonecarving system, that the Mechanical Lore split was progressing. To that end, I will not be re-verifying any of this information until after the eventual release of the new Alchemy system.

For my tests, I used freshly precisely foraged herbs.  First I tested the freshly foraged herb, then in the dried state, next dried and made into a standard alchemy potion/salve/tea and finally dried and made properly into a tincture.  I did not test any of the items that require a store bought item (ex. ithor potion), although may at some point do those.

With the wounds I used, obviously there is no way to get exactly the same wound each time, so I tried to make a note when the herb healed it all the way down.  If further testing is needed, those will be the ones I try and duplicate first.  However, I was very careful that when I was working on the herbs that heal multiple areas (such as cebi or yelith) I would only have a single wounded area so that the tincture/potion/powder was only affecting a single area.  At some point, it may be interesting to test to see how diffused the herbs get on multiple areas, but that was not within the scope of this round of tests, sorry.

On the lowest healing message (You get an itching sensation around your <area>) there is a chance that the herb state will heal, but the wound you have is too severe.  For instance, when I tested drinking sufil mash on a bruised, swollen and slashed right eye, it was at first the 'itching' message. However, I healed the wound down to a bruised, swollen and bleeding right eye and it was able to work.  I believe though that when the wounds become more severe, the less potent herb states will become less effective regardless.

In many cases, the best form to take in the herb is via a tincture you drink (which always results in a mild internal poison).  Exceptions to this are Cebi Tincture and Eghmok Tincture (and of course the ones that don't make into tinctures).

Except with what I think is a buggy tincture, I never received the 'melting wounds' messaging.  I hope when we are able to make our own alcohol, we'll be able to do that.  However, I will keep my ears open for when folks do get that messaging, see if I can recreate it.

Also, I found that in many cases, there really isn't a notable benefit to drying the herb from the fresh foraged state unless you plan on making it into a potion/tincture.  For instance, yelith root precisely foraged yielded the same results as a precisely foraged yelith root that had been dried.  Perhaps each herb 'caps out' on what it can heal, and drying may help when your foraging skill is low, but once you cap out on finding the herb, drying can't improve it past a certain point.  More testing needs to be done on that.

 

Herb Most Potent form/message received 2nd Most Potent form/message received Crossing store-bought
nemoih root tincture drank
You feel a great deal better.
nemoih root/dried nemoih root eaten
You feel a lot better.
You feel a lot better.
eghmok moss (dried moss) potion drank or applied
You feel a great deal better.
tincture drank
You feel much better.
N/A
georin grass tincture drank, (dried grass) salve rubbed or applied
You feel a great deal better.
- You feel a lot better.
riolur leaf tincture drank
You feel a great deal better.
riolur leaf/dried riolur leaf eaten
You feel a lot better.
You feel a lot better.
jadice flower tincture drank
You feel a great deal better.
jadice flower/dried jadice flower eaten
You feel a lot better.
You feel a lot better.
yelith root tincture drank
You feel a great deal better.
yelith root/dried yelith root eaten
You feel a lot better.
You feel a lot better.
nilos grass (note: tincture may be buggy) tincture drank
You feel your wounds fade away.
(dried grass) salve rubbed or applied
You feel a great deal better.
You feel a lot better.
muljin sap - does not make a tincture muljin sap/dried muljin paste eaten
You feel a lot better.
muljin paste applied/muljin mash drank
You feel somewhat better.
You feel a lot better.
hulnik grass tincture drank
You feel a great deal better.
hulnik grass/dried hulnik grass eaten
You feel a lot better.
You feel a lot better.
blocil berries - cloudy tincture (dried berries) blocil potion drank
You feel a lot better.
- You feel a lot better.
plovik leaf tincture drank
You feel a great deal better.
plovik leaf/dried plovik leaf eaten
You feel a lot better.
You feel a lot better.
sufil sap – does not make a tincture sufil sap/dried sufil sap eaten
You feel a lot better.
freshly foraged applied/dried then applied
You feel better.
You feel a lot better.
dried aloe pulp - cloudy tincture
crushed aloe - cloudy tincture
(dried leaf pulp) aloe balm rubbed need to find more skin wounds to finish test with N/A
cebi root dried cebi root/powder eaten
You feel a lot better.
cebi root/dried cebi root eaten
You feel better.
 
nuloe stem tincture drank
You feel a great deal better.
nuloe stem/dried nuloe stem eaten
You feel a lot better.
 
jadice pollen tincture drank
You feel a great deal better.
jadice pollen/dried jadice pollen eaten
You feel a lot better.
 

 

Aloe Leaf eaten

Aloe Pulp applied

You get an itching sensation around your skin. You feel somewhat better.
  You feel a little better.
  You feel slightly better.
 

dried Aloe pulp eaten

Aloe Balm rubbed

  You feel much better.
  You feel better.
   
   
 

Aloe Balm eaten

Aloe Balm applied

You get an itching sensation around your skin. You feel better.

N/A

Yelith Root eaten

Yelith Pulp applied

You feel a lot better. You feel better.
You feel much better. You feel somewhat better.
You feel better. You feel a little better.
  You feel slightly better.
 

Yelith Powder eaten

Yelith Powder applied

You feel a lot better. You feel better.
You feel much better. You feel somewhat better.
  You feel a little better.
  You feel slightly better.
 

Yelith Tincture drank

Yelith Tincture applied

You feel a great deal better. You feel much better.
You feel a lot better. You feel better.
You feel much better. (healed) You feel somewhat better.
  You feel a little better.
  You feel slightly better.
 

Yelith Potion drank

Yelith Potion applied

You feel somewhat better. You feel a little better.
You feel a little better.  
You feel slightly better.  

store bought yelith eaten:  You feel a lot better - You feel a little better.

Jadice Flower eaten Jadice Pulp applied
You feel a lot better. You feel better.
You feel much better. You feel somewhat better.
You feel better. You feel a little better.
You feel somewhat better.  
You feel a little better.  
 
Jadice Powder eaten Jadice Powder applied
You feel a lot better. You feel better.
You feel much better. You feel somewhat better.
You feel better. You feel a little better.
You feel somewhat better. You feel slightly better.
You feel a little better.  
 
Jadice Tincture drank Jadice Tincture applied
You feel a great deal better. You feel much better.
You feel a lot better. You feel better.
You feel much better. You feel somewhat better.
You feel better. You feel a little better.
You feel somewhat better. You feel slightly better.
 
Jadice Potion drank Jadice Potion applied
You feel better. You feel somewhat better.
You feel somewhat better. (didn't receive any further messaging but still wounded)
You feel a little better.  

store bought jadice eaten: You feel a lot better - You feel a little better.

Georin Grass eaten

Georin Pulp applied

You feel somewhat better. You feel somewhat better.
You feel a little better. You feel a little better.
 

Georin Powder eaten

Georin Powder applied

You feel somewhat better. You feel somewhat better.
You feel a little better. You feel a little better.
 
Georin Tincture drank

Georin Tincture applied

You feel a great deal better. You feel somewhat better.
You feel a lot better. You feel a little better.
You feel much better. You feel slightly better.
You feel better.  
You feel somewhat better.  
 
Georin Salve rubbed

Georin Salve applied

You feel a great deal better. You feel a great deal better.
You feel a lot better. You feel a lot better.
You feel much better. You feel much better.
  You feel better.
  You feel somewhat better.

store bought georin rubbed: You feel a lot better - You feel a little better.

Nilos Grass eaten Nilos Pulp applied
You feel somewhat better. You feel better.
You feel a little better. You feel somewhat better.
  You feel a little better.
  You feel slightly better.
 
Nilos Powder eaten Nilos Powder applied
You feel better. You feel much better.
You feel somewhat better. You feel better.
You feel a little better. You feel somewhat better.
You feel slightly better. You feel a little better.
  You feel slightly better.
 
Nilos Tincture drank Nilos Tincture applied
You feel your wounds fade away. You feel better.
You feel your wounds fade away. You feel somewhat better.
had an external scuff that got healed, but with no messaging You feel a little better.
  You feel slightly better.
 
Nilos Salve rubbed Nilos Salve applied
You feel a great deal better. You feel a great deal better.
You feel a lot better. You feel a lot better.
You feel much better. You feel much better.
You feel better. You feel better.

store bought nilos rubbed: You feel a lot better - You feel a little better.

Nemoih Root eaten Nemoih Pulp applied
You feel a lot better. You feel somewhat better.
You feel much better.  
You feel better.  
You feel somewhat better.  
You feel a little better.  
 
Nemoih Powder eaten Nemoih Powder applied
You feel a lot better. You feel somewhat better.
You feel much better. You feel a little better.
You feel better.  
You feel somewhat better.  
 
Nemoih Tincture drank Nemoih Tincture applied
You feel a great deal better. You feel somewhat better.
You feel a lot better. You feel a little better.
You feel much better.  
You feel better.  
You feel somewhat better.  
 
Nemoih Potion drank Nemoih Potion applied
You feel somewhat better. You get an itching sensation around your head.
You feel a little better.  
You feel slightly better.  

store bought nemoih eaten: You feel a lot better - You feel a little better.

Hulnik Grass eaten Hulnik Pulp applied
You feel somewhat better. You feel slightly better.
You feel a little better.  
 
Hulnik Powder eaten Hulnik Powder applied
You feel a lot better. You feel somewhat better.
You feel much better. stopped healing after the first pulse
You feel somewhat better.  
You feel a little better.  
 
Hulnik Tincture drank Hulnik Tincture applied
You feel a great deal better. You feel somewhat better.
You feel a lot better. You feel a little better.
You feel much better.  
You feel better.  
You feel somewhat better.  
 
Hulnik Potion drank Hulnik Potion applied
You feel somewhat better. You get an itching sensation around your back.

store bought hulnik eaten: You feel a lot better - You feel a little better.

Blocil Berries eaten

Blocil Pulp applied

You get an itching sensation in your back. You get an itching sensation in your back.
 

Blocil Powder eaten

Blocil Powder applied

You get an itching sensation in your back. You get an itching sensation in your back.
 

Blocil Potion drank

Blocil Potion applied

You feel a lot better. You get an itching sensation in your back.
You feel much better.  
You feel better.  
You feel somewhat better.  
You feel a little better.  

store bought blocil drank: You feel a lot better - You feel a little better.

Plovik Leaf eaten Plovik Pulp applied
You feel somewhat better. You get an itching sensation around your chest.
 
Plovik Powder eaten Plovik Powder applied
You feel a lot better. You get an itching sensation around your chest.
You feel much better.  
You feel better.  
You feel somewhat better.  
You feel a little better.  
 
Plovik Tincture drank Plovik Tincture applied
You feel a great deal better. You feel somewhat better.
You feel a lot better. You feel a little better.
You feel much better. You feel slightly better.
You feel better.  
You feel somewhat better.  
 
Plovik Tea drank Plovik Tea applied
You feel better. You get an itching sensation around your chest.
You feel somewhat better.  
You feel a little better.  
You feel slightly better.  

store bought plovik eaten: You feel a lot better - You feel a little better.

Eghmok Moss eaten Eghmok Pulp applied
You get an itching sensation in your head. You get an itching sensation in your head.
 
Eghmok Powder eaten Eghmok Powder applied
You get an itching sensation in your head. You get an itching sensation in your head.
 
Eghmok Tincture drank Eghmok Tincture applied
You feel much better. You feel a little better.
You feel better.  
You feel somewhat better.  
You feel a little better.  
 
Eghmok Potion drank Eghmok Potion applied
You feel a great deal better. (healed) You feel a great deal better.
  You feel a lot better.
  You feel much better.

N/A

Muljin Sap eaten

Muljin Paste (crush) applied

You feel a lot better. You feel somewhat better.
You feel much better. You feel a little better.
You feel better. You feel slightly better.
 

Muljin Paste (dried) eaten

Muljin Paste (dried) applied

You feel a lot better. You feel somewhat better.
You feel much better. You feel a little better.
 

Muljin Mash drank

Muljin Mash applied

You feel somewhat better. You get an itching sensation in your abdomen.
You feel a little better.  
You feel slightly better.  

store bought muljin eaten: You feel a lot better - You feel a little better.

Sufil Sap eaten

Sufil Paste (crush) applied

You feel a lot better. You feel better.
You feel much better. You feel somewhat better.
You feel better. You feel a little better.
 

Sufil Paste (dried) eaten

Sufil Paste (dried) applied

You feel a lot better. You feel better.
You feel much better. You feel somewhat better.
You feel better.  
You feel somewhat better.  
You feel a little better.  
 

Sufil Mash drank

Sufil Mash applied

You feel somewhat better. You get an itching sensation around your right eye.

store bought sufil eaten: You feel a lot better - You feel a little better.

Riolur Leaf eaten

Riolur Pulp applied

You feel a lot better. You feel somewhat better.
You feel much better. You feel a little better.
You feel better. You feel slightly better.
 

Riolur Powder eaten

Riolur Powder applied

You feel a lot better. You feel somewhat better.
You feel much better. You feel a little better.
You feel better. You feel slightly better.
 

Riolur Tincture drank

Riolur Tincture applied

You feel a great deal better. You feel somewhat better.
  You feel a little better.
  You feel slightly better.
 

Riolur Tea drank

Riolur Tea applied

You feel somewhat better. You get an itching sensation in your neck.
You feel a little better.  
You feel slightly better.  

store bought riolur eaten: You feel a lot better - You feel a little better.

Jadice Pollen eaten  Jadice Paste applied
You feel a lot better. You feel better.
You feel much better. You feel somewhat better.
  You feel a little better.
 
Jadice Pollen Dust eaten Jadice Pollen Dust applied
You feel a lot better. You feel better.
You feel much better. You feel somewhat better.
You feel better. You feel a little better.
You feel somewhat better. You feel slightly better.
You feel a little better.  
 
Jadice Pollen Tincture drank Jadice Pollen Tincture applied
You feel a great deal better. You feel much better. (healed)
You feel a lot better.  
You feel much better.  
   
healed a insig. scar with no messaging  
 
Cebi Root eaten Cebi Pulp applied
You feel a lot better. You feel better.
You feel much better. You feel somewhat better.
You feel better. You feel a little better.
  You feel slightly better.
 
Cebi Powder eaten Cebi Powder applied
You feel a lot better. You feel better.
You feel much better. You feel somewhat better.
You feel better. You feel a little better.
You feel somewhat better. You feel slightly better.
 
Cebi Tincture drank Cebi Tincture applied
You feel somewhat better. You feel a little better.
You feel a little better.  
 
Nuloe Stem eaten Nuloe Pulp applied
You feel a lot better. You feel better.
You feel much better. You feel somewhat better.
   
   
 
Nuloe Powder eaten Nuloe Powder applied
You feel a lot better. (healed) You feel better.
  You feel somewhat better.
  You feel a little better.
  You feel slightly better.
 
Nuloe Tincture drank Nuloe Tincture applied
You feel a great deal better. You feel much better.
You feel a lot better. (healed) You feel better.
  You feel somewhat better.
2nd test healed the scars with no messaging  
 

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